Kill la Kill Episode 24 (FINALE) – The hype train ends

Kill la Kill Matoi Ryuuko Finale
SUPER SAIYAN.

The hype’s over guys.
Kill la Kill Episode 24 Review
“Past the Infinite Darkness”
“Hateshinaki Yami no Kanata ni”
(果てしなき闇の彼方に)

After finishing four 2-cour series from the fall of 2013, I must say that Kill la Kill remains the most difficult show for me to review. A part of me enjoy some parts of the ride, and a part of me is underwhelmed. Regardless, I’ll still give my take on this finale and a bit on this show as a whole.

Kill la Kill Episode 24 Impressions

Super ultima uniform hundred man assault

Still small.

And that’s not.

Whoa! SASUGA TRIGGER.

Kiryuuin Ragyou

Why is she so ugly?

Kiryuuin Satsuki punched

JUST BECAUSE YOUR FACE ISN’T BEAUTIFUL DOESN’T MEAN YOU CAN JUST PUNCH SATSUKI-SAMA LIKE THAT.

Absolute domination life fiber

K.

THE TANG.

Nui slashes Mako

I bet some people are glad that this happened.

Gamagoori protects mako

:O

Yeah, punish the scantily dressed.

Satsuki hears senketsu


SASUGA SATSUKI.
BEEN SHIPPING SINCE THE START.

Ragyou penetrated by Senketsu

PENETRATED.

Just die already.

Satsuki Godrobe Junketsu

Poor Junketsu. No one tried to reach out to it.

Okay, Ryuuko.
Just punch Ragyou in the face and end it.

Gamagoori?

NONONONONONONONONONON.

All dat blood though.

Gamagoori Ira badass

Gamagoori Ira tengen toppa reference

DAT REFERENCE.

EAT IT.

Satsuki and Ryuuko kills Ragyou

Not yet.

Harime Nui life fiber


The horror.

I couldn’t care less about these two antagonists.

Orgasming to space.

How did it reach the other side if it didn’t shine there?

BANK OF OBAMA.

Mankanshoku Mako

Mako and Satsuki

Sounds about right.

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Senketsu eye final form

Dat CGI.

Matoi Ryuuko and Senketsu final episode Senketsu fashion week

Shut your ugly face.

I TOLD YOU WE’D GO TO SPACE.

Yeahok.

Ragyou and Ryuuko

Your ugly face.

Just shut her ugly face up.

Kiryuuin Ragyou ugly

Oh god.

Finally explained.

But at this point I really don’t care about explanations.

Not human not clothing

Got it.

DUDE.
YOUR UGLY FACE.
PLSGO.

You sure said it.


Dat resolution.

Ragyou shocked

PLSGO.

Kiryuuin Ragyou death

Thank the lord.

OKAY.
GOT IT.

Uhhhh…

2DEEP4ME&U.

HOW DO YOU THINK SENKETSU FEELS ABOUT THAT?!
D:

Matoi Ryuuko crying

RIP IN PEACE.

Feeling dat Gamagoori butt cheek.

Kiryuuin Satsuki smiling happy

DEM EYEBROWS.

SISTERLY LOVE.

Kill la Kill academy

NUDITY.
REJOICE.

So Junketsu got absorbed and that was the end of it all?
Wow.
That’s depressing.

DAT.
SATSUKI.
I prefer long hair, but SATSUKI IS PERFECT NEVERTHELESS.

Mako Ryuuko and Satsuki blushing

DAT BLUSH.

Kill la Kill

PERFECT.

Gamagoori Ira shy

This episode is just a huge load of fanservice.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Kill la Kill Kiryuuin Satsuki short hair

I’ll at least miss seeing Satsuki.

Well, that’s that.

Kill la Kill Episode 24 Review

(BEFORE YOU CONTINUE READING KEEP IN MIND THAT I FLESHED OUT MY ARGUMENT A BIT MORE IN THE COMMENTS WITH CHRONOLOGIST BELOW. Most of what I said about the themes is countered by what he said. I do, however, develop an argument as to why I still think the significance of those themes is lacking which isn’t in this review section at all. Apologies, but I’ve been having difficulty pinpointing my problems about Kill la Kill since the beginning and it’s really only through discussion that my stance can become more developed.)

Ultimately, this anime comes down to one thing above all else. No, it’s not its thematic profundity and the symbolism that some say this show has in abundance. It really just comes down to enjoyment. Now, you’re probably going to say, “Isn’t that the same with all anime?” Well, it’s a difference in degree. If I tried to review Shin Sekai Yori, I’m going to focus more on the moral dilemmas the show tries to get across and how well everything, such as the writing, characters, dialogue, atmosphere, soundtrack, and visuals, complement them. Enjoyment in this case is important, but it would not as be pivotal in my critique as it would be in something like Kill la Kill. And why is it this way for Kill la Kill? Why do I push aside the thematic profundity? Because I seriously don’t see the significance in it. We’ve consistently seen clothing being used as the major motif, but I always seem to question, “So what? How is this significant in any way? What are they trying to tell us using clothing in particular?” Is it the idea of how clothing itself has power over people even though “clothing is clothing,” and “humans are humans” as Ryuuko and Senketsu say in this episode? Is it saying that clothing really don’t have power over us even though we let it have power over us? It lines up pretty well with the idea of Life Fibers and how they’re back to wearing normal clothing at the end.

If I am interpreting this theme correctly, then I must say that this theme is poorly portrayed. Firstly, the show never goes as far as to state or imply why clothing has power over people in the first place. I don’t just mean this in Kill la Kill’s world, but why it is so in the real world. It’s not only up to the audience to try and think for themselves in this case. We can simplify the power that clothing have to “Life Fibers.” What could that represent? Just about anything you want, and that’s a problem. The anime needs to direct the thought process somewhat or else there’d be no point in portraying this theme in the first place because one could just say, “Clothing doesn’t and shouldn’t hold power over humans” and leaving it at that. The purpose of putting this theme in anime format is so this idea can be developed further and be given a context in which we think about the theme in even more detail. Of course, the anime doesn’t need to go as far as to create some boring exposition explaining everything, but there’s not enough supporting this theme to make it as significant as it could have been. This also reflects a lack of development in this theme in that the anime has basically reiterated the same two contrasting messages of “Clothing is power,” and “Clothing isn’t power” over and over again instead of developing deeper messages that reflect the core theme. It also doesn’t help that the dialogue is “incomprehensible garbage” at times like Ragyou so keenly points out.

Okay, that’s one theme, but what about the others? Senketsu says at the end of the episode that “sailor uniforms are made to be grown out of.” This could also be another hint of the theme of Ryuuko growing up as a person through this journey to grow out of her vengeance and become an adult. The problem with this is just… Well, Ryuuko didn’t really develop that much. Nothing really changed from her after she met Mako until now. Sure, she changes targets from Satsuki to Ragyou, but this change in target is not indicative of character growth. The only noticeable bit of development is when she accepts Senketsu as more than just a piece of clothing. Does there need to always be great character development? No. I don’t think such character development is absolutely necessary in every single anime. However, when one of the themes is about the growth of a person, I expect there to be great development to reflect that. Now you may say, “Wait, wait. What if it’s just satirizing profundity and how sometimes none of that really matters?” I will not say whether this is true or not for I don’t think I have looked deep enough into Kill la Kill to give that sort of judgement. What I will say is that I can at least accept it more readily than if the writer actually wanted to play the themes straight out. The show appears to be aware of its pompous dialogue, and it fits the exaggerated style of the show well. Still, I have to throw doubt into whether this is a suitable substitute for thematic profundity.

“Alright, shut the fuck up Entrav. This show is just supposed to be nonsensical fun and you’re prying into areas you don’t need to. Fuck you for ruining my entertainment you asshole. Can you not even appreciate all the FABULOUS nudity? All the explosions and sisterly goodness? That Gamagoori TTGL reference? That Nonon elite four amazingfabulousness? You have to view this anime in a different light. You don’t seriously view all anime in the same manner. Right? You son of a bitch? Why can’t you just shut up and appreciate the short-hair Satsuki blush? God, I hate pretentious assholes like you who think they know all the shit when they ignore the most important thing. You know what that fucking thing is? Entertainment.”
Sincerely, Satsuki’s butt cheeks.

Alright, I typed that out for you Kill la Kill fans so just hold on to your ballsacks and read the whole review. Well, you probably would have already started typing everything out regardless. Anyways, this is just my perspective, and I don’t think it’s fair to base the critique of this anime only on its thematic depth or profundity. Some anime are meant to be mindlessly entertaining and that’s it. If you enjoy it, that’s perfectly fine, but my stand remains against those who say that Kill la Kill is “deep.” I understand that I have not touched upon everything that this anime has to offer thematically, but from what I have tried to dig up, forcefully mind you as the show did not captivate me thematically, it lacks proper execution and development. That said, there are some parts of this show that I found to be entertaining such as episode 18 where Satsuki’s true motives are shown. That was an interesting development in her character and an awesome episode action-wise. However, I just felt that this final episode is underwhelming. I try to avoid comparing this anime to TTGL, but their similarity in terms of how over the top they are is undeniable. In terms of that, this finale is lacking. And this is why it becomes a bit difficult to critique some of these shows because one can always make the valid claim that you can rate this show mostly on entertainment which is immensely subjective.

Ryuuko shouting at Life Fibers to return Earth back to normal, the hackneyed dialogue, the improperly developed antagonist, and my lack of care towards Ryuuko as a character really didn’t help me enjoy this conclusion. Nevertheless, there are other aspects like the Gamagoori TTGL reference, the sisterly love, the Satsuki blush, and the nudity of everyone do make up for some of that. I can definitely see why some people like this show. It just didn’t hit the right chords for me. Maybe if I didn’t have such high expectations, I may have enjoyed it more. Though, I did tone them down quite a bit after being initially disappointed. I am still looking forward to what else TRIGGER can offer because, well, this is their first series. That said, even if I greatly enjoyed this show, I don’t think it would ever rise to greatness in my books as entertainment must be complemented with a decent amount of thematic depth for me to consider it as such. There’s an art to creating profundity, making people think more about distinct ideas that they wouldn’t have otherwise, and fleshing out a captivating portrayal of events that allow the audience to want to dig deeper themselves that entertainment value alone can never completely replace.

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  • Ashley A.

    i agree with most things you said, like no matter how much I enjoyed the show i couldn’t figure out why it was about clothing and if it was supposed to be deep and symbolism and whatever. but somehow they made me care a bit about Senketsu aka a piece of cloth.

    so I’ll commend them for that.

    tho I really enjoyed this ending, after episode 19 I stopped trying to see the deep meaning and just enjoy the show and I did. thanks for blogging as well entrav. :D

    BUT GODDAMMIT SATSUKI’S HAIR.

    • http://www.entravity.com/ Entrav

      Thanks for reading my review! And don’t forget to read Chronologist’s comment as he makes it very clear what two core themes are. I make my point in the reply as well.

      SATSUKI BLUSH TOO GUD.

  • Chronologist

    Did we watch the same show, Entravity? Because I really, firmly, disagree without final thoughts on this show, and this line in particular:

    Why do I push aside the thematic profundity? Because I seriously don’t see the significance in it. We’ve consistently seen clothing being used as the major motif, but I always seem to question, “So what? How is this significant in any way? What are they trying to tell us using clothing in particular?”

    So you’re uncertain how clothing is significant in Kill la Kill, huh? How about, you know, the Red String of Fate? That’s one of the core themes of Kill la Kill, and is essentially omnipresent (The color of life fibers, the notions of predestination and fate, Nui Harime’s severing of life fibers with her pinky, Ryuko absorbing the fibers of those she defeats, etc.) Destiny has been likened to thread since ancient Greek mythology, so the importance of threads in a show about fate. As a brief aside, let’s look at the Greek Fates themselves – Clotho spins the thread of fate (Ragyo Kiryuin and the Original Life Fiber by extension), Lachesis measures and weaves the thread (Nui Harime), and Atropos severs the thread with her scissors/shears (Ryuko Matoi, who also is a scissor-wielder).

    Just look at the openings. In the first opening, a red string runs all the way from Ryuko to Satsuki, encircling the other main cast members, and in the shots that split the two of them, a shimmering thread separates them. The second opening literally start with “It all begins when we sever the threads of fate” and ends with the completed Scissor Blade slicing a red string in half. Note that the first half of the show is mostly spent with Ryuko following a ‘traditional’ path towards confronting Satsuki. At this point, the Scissor Blade, Senketsu, and indeed the entire situation Ryuko is placed in feels like ‘destiny’, like it’s how a story is ‘supposed’ to go.

    The second half of the show kicks this to the curb, totally changing the friend/foe dynamic and forcing Ryuko to become more than just a lone wolf out for revenge. All of humanity’s evolution is ‘destiny’, with the culmination being the transformation of all humans into Life Fibers. Now Ryuko struggles against her, and everyone else’s, destiny (once again, check opening 2 where she’s immobilized by red strings).

    That’s not the only core theme to this show, of course. How about the use of blood and nudity as a metaphor for Ryuko’s transformation from a teenager to a ‘woman’, culminating in Senketsu’s parting remarks that she’s outgrown him? Or the time she freaks out when she realizes that she’s not entirely human – she’s coming to grips with the changes her body is going through, something all teenagers have to face. Compare and contrast to the phallic nature of drills in TTGL and the emphasis on MANLY SPIRIT, and you’ll see that Kill la Kill is the double-X chromosome version of that coming-of-age story.

    Honestly, I don’t understand how you can watch this show and not ‘get’ why clothing is important. Clothing, for girls, is symbolic of their transition from children to adults. Clothing is a huge bundle of emotions and expectations by society, especially when the outfits are revealing like Senketsu. Clothing ‘wears us’ in that it defines our culture, how we perceive ourselves, and how we perceive others. Clothing matters, more than I think you’re giving it credit.

    Entravity, you cannot deny that this is successful theming and symbolism in Kill la Kill. This isn’t a show that was just slapped together with fanservice and action scenes. Kill la Kill is firmly rooted in a myriad of themes, many (if not all) of which tie directly into the plot and characterization. Is it a perfect show? No, it certainly is not, but I don’t think you’ve given it a fair review here. You say you enjoyed the show, but you focus so much on the negatives here that I can’t help think you actually hate it.

    Trigger put in a TON of effort to make Kill la Kill more than just fighting and skimpy outfits, and it saddens me that you don’t acknowledge that effort. I have always respected your reviews, even when I disagree with them, and I still do, but it is hard to do so when I feel you have missed so much of what makes this show good.

    • The Atomic Dwarf

      Hmm. You make a good point. Completely overlooked the elements coming from Greek mythology. You could also see all the characters Ryuuko defeated willingly giving her their life fibers in this last episode, so you could say they’ve been tied to her by the string of fate (life fiber Senketsu absorbed). Guess I need to watch this anime again.

    • http://www.entravity.com/ Entrav

      Firstly, I want to thank you for making a proper counterargument. Secondly, hopefully you understand that there’s no harsh feelings going into this conversation and that I hold nothing against you.

      Ah, the red string of fate eh? It’s been clearly alluded to plenty of times. I can see that there are many bits and pieces regarding this “red string” you can pick up in the openings or at various moments. I will give you that TRIGGER has properly put symbols here and there to give rise to the idea that one of its core themes is overcoming fate. I also can see what you’re saying with how this is a “coming of age story.” I can agree with your main points describing the two themes and that’s why this show is difficult to review for me because I know you can probably dig deeper and find more than I have had. I can’t say that you’re straight up wrong with what you said because what you said makes sense. I’ve read other people’s thoughts on the series and I put the review up because I wanted a reply like this where someone did dig deeper so that I can see the depth of this show. With your comment, I can at least take back what I said about standing against those who say that Kill la Kill is deep.

      However, that doesn’t mean that I “cannot deny this is successful theming and symbolism in Kill la Kill.” I will still stand against those who say that the themes and symbolism in Kill la Kill are significant. I don’t believe they were successful in delivering the themes of this anime to have an impact on me. Of course, this is just my perspective and I can see why others would disagree.

      While watching Kill la Kill, I noticed one major problem that I had while viewing this series, and that was how apathetic I felt towards the events that transpired which reflected upon the themes such as fighting against fate. Yes, initially Ryuuko follows a “traditional path towards confronting Satsuki,” but it is that very traditionality that makes me apathetic towards what happened. Why should I care for Ryuuko’s desire for revenge? Why should I care about this traditional path at all? With a poor backstory of her father’s death driving her to seek revenge, it made me feel just how cliche it is and I started to care less and less. Yes, it may have deeper themes, but why should I think about them when the show does a poor job of executing the portrayal of those themes? Please do not even get started on how this is intentional. The point of anime and any entertainment medium is to be first and foremost entertaining. As soon as it loses that, it loses any thematic significance. I am sure that TRIGGER could have thought of a more original storyline in the beginning half that still related to the theme.

      What about the growth of Ryuuko from a girl to a woman? Firstly, I don’t like Ryuuko as a character. Honestly, Satsuki should have been the main character for I found her far more enthralling. Ryuuko exhibits the same old hot-headed nature throughout, and while that isn’t inherently a problem in and of itself, the hackneyed dialogue doesn’t make her character any better. I’ll be honest and say that I’m not entirely sure why I don’t like Ryuuko as a character, but I’ve never been blown away by the dialogue even once. In TTGL, Simon made a speech after you know what happened and that was both inspiring and showed character growth. There was nothing of the sort in Kill la Kill. Ryuuko just felt bland throughout which made me care less for the show as a whole.

      And then we have the revelation of the Life Fibers. Oh boy, they’re aliens. Call me shallow, but I don’t give a crap about them fighting against fate when the symbol of that fate doesn’t even have a personality and is driven by a villain like Ragyou who lacks even a properly developed motive. Fighting against fate? Isn’t fate supposed to be an impossible enemy that feels too overwhelming to overcome? Something that is so significant that people would literally need to sacrifice themselves to overcome? Yet, fate in this case is characterized by lifeless Life Fibers unlike how it was characterized in TTGL which actually had character and made me care about the significance of the main protagonists’ pursuits. Does this mean that the theme of overcoming fate isn’t there? Absolutely not. It’s still there. However, it’s not significant to me. I don’t care about the protagonists overcoming fate if this is the form of fate that they have to overcome.

      It’s hard to counter your arguments because they’re not even wrong. Essentially we are talking about different things. You did make me realize that there is more depth in Kill la Kill which one should expect from a studio like TRIGGER. However, that doesn’t mean that events surrounding that expressed those themes had the necessary impact to make them significant. I have to truly thank you though because I always struggled with critiquing Kill la Kill and you made me take another step in finding my reasons behind my apathy towards the show. I know there are plenty of other points for me to address, but I think that’ll just have to come with time hence why a general review of Kill la Kill will not come out anytime soon.

      Do I hate this show? Absolutely not. I love anime. I really, really do. Even though I may be overwhelmingly negative about an anime, it doesn’t mean that I hate it. It’s actually very rare for me to outright hate shows because most of the time I end up enjoying the experience no matter what the quality of the show is. Nevertheless, that doesn’t make for a very good critic, and I still think I’m horrible at it which is why people like you exist to correct me, so thanks for that. I still don’t think I’m mistaken about the themes and symbolisms in Kill la Kill. The thing that stood out to me most about this show was how despite its bombastic nature that I would normally be hyped up for I actually felt quite the opposite. Is it my fault that I didn’t dig deeper and find the themes? Absolutely yes. On the other hand, maybe the anime is to blame as well for not captivating me enough to make me want to dig deeper.

      • Chronologist

        I had a long response to your post written up which I lost, so I’ll try to sum up my thoughts.

        1) Thanks for the response post, I appreciate you taking a thoughtful and reasonable approach.

        2) I’m glad that you recognize that Kill la Kill has some deep themes. I still think the themes are effectively presented, but to each their own I suppose.

        3) I like Ryuko as a character, and I enjoy the contrast between her and Satsuki, it’s a very Red Oni – Blue Oni relationship, as well as an excellent representation of Order vs. Chaos. At the same time, making characters likable is the hardest part of fiction, and there’s no way to make a character everyone likes, so you’re absolutely free to disagree with me.

        4) Ryuko grows as a character over the course of the series, becoming more caring, more invested in helping others, more accepting of herself, and even deciding that her initial motivation (vengeance) is not as important as saving her friends (and indeed the world). She learns to put others before herself, and learns to accept who, and what, she is (again, puberty). So, I disagree with you here, because I think the Ryuko we see in episode 24 is vastly different from the one we see in episode 1.

        5) Tell me if you’ve heard this one before: An alien lifeform crash-lands on earth millions of years ago, causing humanity to evolve unnaturally. A crazy and powerful woman begins to revere it as a god after being corrupted by its influence. A group of kids find out that the world is fated to be consumed by the alien force, and then decide to change the fate of the world. They suffer many hardships along the way, including recruiting an ally who they once considered the “villain’, who actually turns out to be trying to stop the alien once and for all. Also, their mother is the corrupted woman who worships the alien being. In the end the heroes use the alien’s own power against it to defeat it. What does that remind you of?

        How about Chrono Trigger? Lavos = Life Fibers, Queen Zeal = Ragyo, Mid-game villain-turned-ally Magus = Satsuki, Magic = Kamui. Kill la Kill mirrors the plot of one of the greatest RPGs, no, one of the best games of all time, and you don’t like it? I’m going to have to vehemently disagree with you there.

        6) As for the villain’s motivations, the Life Fibers want to consume material vital to their sustained existence and procreate to produce more of themselves. There are dozens of effective villains that are all about that: the Borg from Star Trek, the Replicators from Stargate: SG1, the Tyranids from 40K, and the Zerg from Starcraft are just a few examples. You could even reason that the Reapers from Mass Effect have a similar motivation. Ultimately, you don’t need the villain of a story to have a complex moral/ethical reason for why it’s evil – basic instincts are more than enough.

        7) Let me respond to this: Fighting against fate? Isn’t fate supposed to be an impossible enemy that feels too overwhelming to overcome? Something that is so significant that people would literally need to sacrifice themselves to overcome? Yet, fate in this case is characterized by lifeless Life Fibers unlike how it was characterized in TTGL which actually had character and made me care about the significance of the main protagonists’ pursuits.

        The main characters of Kill la Kill struggle against an overwhelming enemy (Original Life Fiber, COVERS, Ragyo + Nui Harime), they are ready to lay down their lives in the hopes of winning, and one of the main characters dies in order to win. How is that not a significant struggle? Just because they’re not fighting an enemy that can throw Big Bangs doesn’t make it any less overwhelming. Compare beating Ragyo to how hard it was for Simon to beat Lordgenome in the first half of TTGL.

        Overall, I’d just like to say that I appreciate your response, and that your review and response have made me look at Kill la Kill in a different way as well. The show is certainly not perfect, and you raise a number of valid points. I may not agree with everything you have said, but I respect your critical opinion here.

        • http://www.entravity.com/ Entrav

          Agh, it always sucks when the post gets lost. I always try and remember to copy my wall of text just in case, haha.

          I honestly don’t have the time to look into Ryuuko’s growth right now, but I will eventually. Personally, I find character development in anime to be one of the most difficult things to do effectively as I always find that they really don’t change too much. Such is the nature of human beings, which make things even more difficult. The best example of character development that I can remember of right now is the first arc of the Monogatari Series: Second Season. But anyways, that’s going on too much of a tangent.

          I actually haven’t finished Chrono Trigger (I know I should, please don’t hate me), but I did see many people referring the story of Kill la Kill to it. I’ll simply say that many stories have the same general outline for their story and yet they may greatly differ in terms of quality. For example, compare Code Geass, season 1 mind you, and Guilty Crown. God, I shiver at the thought of comparing these two shows, but the outline of their story is quite similar. Both male protagonists gain the “power of the kings” and end up involving themselves in a rebellion in Japan. They struggle to gain independence from outside forces that are trying to invade them while utilizing their power to achieve this end even though they cross moral and ethical lines. It may not be as similar as what you describe here, but I don’t think you can deny the disparity in quality between the two shows even though their overarching story is quite similar. Heck, if you compare slice of life shows, you’ll find that their overarching stories are incredibly similar, and yet, there are some that are far better than others.

          A story is so much more than just its outline. Much like how a drawing is created by first drawing outlines, a story is first created by creating this overarching story. (I know I’m simplifying the story-creation process, but it makes the analogy work out better.) However, everything from the minor details of the drawing to the shading to the coloring to the many intricacies that come with a piece of art that I have no idea of create the whole piece. The outline is just a small part of it and that goes for the overarching story of an anime as well.

          Take the points that you state for example. “A crazy and powerful woman begins to revere it as a god after being corrupted by its influence.” There’s so much detail here that’s not stated in this outline. Exactly why did she become corrupted? What is her background? Does her past drive her to become a person like this? Does she want power for some other purpose initially and became corrupt? Even after answering those questions, there lies the screenplay, soundtrack, dialogue, and so on to assist that.

          What about the part where “they suffer many hardships along the way, including recruiting an ally who they once considered the ‘villain,’ who actually turns out to be trying to stop the alien once and for all.” How did they suffer? What kind of hardships do they go through? What kind of a person is this ally? What are their underlying motives? This goes on and on and I think you can begin to see that it’s a very complicated process where the depth of the plot isn’t just something you can summarize in a paragraph and is filled with tiny bits and pieces that determine whether it’s great or not.

          As for the villain’s motivations, yes, I don’t expect Life Fibers to have complex moral/ethical reasons for why it’s evil. That’s fine. However, if it wants me to relate to it, then it better have reasons beyond just instinct. I’m not saying that it’s impossible for me to relate to the anime if the antagonist is unrelatable. The protagonists could be, but that isn’t the case for Kill la Kill, at least not Ryuuko, which is why having a properly developed antagonist in this case would have helped. I’m not necessarily just talking about Life Fibers either. What about Ragyou? She’s just crazy and loves this power which is fine, but why should I care? How did she succumb to this power? As a child, was she destined to because she was born in the Kiryuuin family? Why did she not fight against it? Did she even fight against it? Why or why not? We get none of that. I think that would have greatly helped with me feeling that this conflict is something greater than what was portrayed here.

          You can compare Life Fibers to those things you mentioned, but the problem with comparing Life Fibers with something like the Reapers from Mass Effect is that there’s so much more to the major conflict with the Reapers outside of the Reapers themselves. I don’t think there’ll be many who are going to say that the Reapers are a great antagonist in and of themselves. It’s more like the journey in which you play in, which changes things greatly from just watching a show, involving all kinds of different storylines with different races that adds to the overall conflict with the Reapers.

          I’m not saying that this conflict isn’t big at all. I’m not just talking about the sense of scale either. It just didn’t feel significant, and I think this goes back to my liking towards Ryuuko, the lack of development on Ragyou’s side, and my uncaring towards the Life Fiber and Nui as two of the antagonists. There’s more to this, and I recognize the depth of the show that you describe. To me though, Kill la Kill is a painting that has deep symbols, nuances and so on that I overlook because the piece itself just isn’t attractive or interesting enough for me to want to find those hidden meanings.

          • SoundMatch

            Most mature argument I’ve ever had to joy of reading. You both earn a medal, so much immaturity on the internet, it’s really nice to see a change.

          • http://www.entravity.com/ Entrav

            :) Big thanks to Chronologist for making it happen.

  • Clothing is Clothing guys!

    I’m gonna go ahead and directly compare Kill la Kill to Gurren Lagann because it seems like the most easily comparable show to me. They’re both in a category of action anime that feel different from other action anime. I can’t really say what does it but it feels like it could be the world building. In the end though I feel like the reason this show fell so flat at the end is because it had one antagonist for too long. People tout this shows over the top action and constant changing but half the show was stuck in Hounouji academy. In the same vein half of the show was spent with the same antagonist. Instead of being able to go from one boss to the next like in Gurren Lagann the finale was forced to be a back and forth between the Ryuko and Ragyou. They tried to make it interesting by speeding up the chain of events but it ended up feeling stagnant and sloppy. The characters never got to feel like they were really progressing even in strength by the end of this which was a core theme of TTGL. It felt like they were trying to capitalize on the similarities in this finale but it just sort of fell flat.

    • http://www.entravity.com/ Entrav

      To me, TTGL succeeded greatly in its execution. I was completely captivated by its portrayal and I just didn’t feel the same for Kill la Kill. That was what made me care about everything in TTGL far more. Oh well, looking forward to what else TRIGGER can make.

  • John Strauss

    Thanks for the review entrav!

    This series was a hell of a ride for me. I loved it

    I would definetly recommend checking out moesucks’ episodic reviews for a more in depth view of the themes associated with the series as a whole and the ideas behind each episode.

    • http://www.entravity.com/ Entrav

      Thank you for reading!

      Ah yes, I actually checked out some of his stuff before. I just read a bit and it’s giving me more insight into the themes that I missed.

  • MACHA

    WHAT AN AWESOME TIME I HAD WITH THIS!!

    Though I don’t agree with a significant portion of your review, I can relate to your point about the presentation of the themes. I had trouble figuring a good deal of it actually. I did get that whole red string of fate part, but the greek mythology bit… totally didn’t know that, so there was no way I’d pick it up unless I went to look for it. So there’s that.
    Kill La Kill excells in AWESOME ENTERTAINMENT. And delivers even more when you get all the themes and references.
    I guess you can say the themes are really woven into the plot in such a way that you have dig a little deeper to find them all.
    I’ll have to watch this show again for sure. Preferably dubbed, that way I can enjoy the animation a bit more :) (I had to stop the %^$%^$%Q thing several times to gawk and appreciate the art. Kills the awesome mood, I know. Bad habit I guess^^)

    I’ll be looking forward to a Nagi review!! It was a bad move to watch this week’s episode :(
    A very long wait…

    • http://www.entravity.com/ Entrav

      I can totally see why you would disagree. Enjoyment especially in this format is very subjective. I’m actually surprised I didn’t really enjoy this show too much. Oh well.

  • zztop

    I hear there is to be a 25th KLK episode this coming September bundled with the final BD, and is graduation themed. Will you be checking it out?

    • http://www.entravity.com/ Entrav

      I’ll definitely watch it, but I probably won’t review it.

  • TurriPi

    I liked this show, I didn’t really look for any deeper meaning because I didn’t need it in this case, at least for a while, it was just a wild ride and I just went along with it, however this second half didn’t fill me with as much anticipation and excitement as I had in the first one, I just can’t point it out but I feel underwhelmed and the final “transformation” didn’t feel as powerful as I think they tried to portray it.

    I’m still looking forward towards watching more of what TRIGGER has to offer.

    • http://www.entravity.com/ Entrav

      Not enough galaxies being thrown around.

      >.>

  • Crazycolorz5

    If I may, I just want to contribute my view on the themes. So basically, nudity is the representative of identity, whereas the life fiber clothing is a facade or a societal label. A lot of Satsuki’s rants are about taking power for yourself as part of yourself (e.g. her talk about how she does use her parents’ power, but only to gain more for herself). And this interpretation is shown heavily in Ryuuko’s words during her fight with Ragyo in the last fight; she mentions that for once, she’s tankful of her body that’s different, while stripping off Senketsu and fighting as herself. She’s accepted herself and is able to draw power from that. Also consider the faceless students in one-start Goku uniforms, who all try to share the same mask of characteristics. And then the show shows(ha!) how people feel about what others think of them through fashion — I mean, of course, how Revocs is worn by everyone; it’s part of how they want to be seen, much like real-life brands. In the ending, the girls go out shopping — but purely for fashion’s sake, for things they find value in.

    … that’s really all I want to type out. Basically another view seeing clothing(esp life fibers) as symbolic.

  • Oak

    I felt a real lack of hooks on the show. For instance, a lot of the references were pointed to once, never to be referenced again, only being loosely connected to the plot. For instance, the things about the greek mythology, it’s references so slightly that’s hard to see how that would interact with the rest of the story.
    Don’t get me wrong, there are many times when Kill la Kill delivers very strong points, but they just don’t connect in the end, feeling more like a monster-of-the-week show then a series with a solid plot. The episode about money when Mankashoku becomes head of the fight club is really well executed, and gets it’s message across really well. Also the first time Ryuuko accepts Senketsu, and get its first burst of power, the message about self-acceptance is really strong and well delivered.
    Going to the second half of the show, it loses the characteristic episodic feeling and the story starts to get together, and the impact of the episodic parts were… less than expected. The show just ignores the great development on the previous episodes and starts to jumble things together or just throw them away altogether, in order to make the show more action packed and to preserve the power balance between the main cast. I’ll list here two instances where that happened that really made me cringe:
    -Mako getting her uniform back: Really? That uniform represented the greediness and corruption, it even was designed to look like mafia clothing, when Mako dons it again, she doesn’t make a reference to what that uniform represented, not giving any heed to the episode in which it appeared, not even a “This time I’ll use this uniform to help my family”, she just wears that and proceeds to continue as Ryuuko’s sidekick.
    -The Sword Deva(can’t remember his name) recovering his sight: This one was so unnecessary and threw so much away that I think it’s clear to you guys. He losing his sight in order to continue being useful to Satsuki, and she treating him with respect on the end of that episode really struck me as the first time it became clear how much the Devas were devoted to Satsuki and how far they were willing to go for her. Throwing that all away in the fight against Nui, by he recovering his sight was just too underwhelming.
    To wrap things up, the main problem with kill la kill was the transitioning between the first episodic part of the show and the second part when the plot became more linear. This failure made the supporting cast seem ever more generic and it started to make me not give a damn about them, near the end even throwing away the things that made me care about them.
    Finally, I think another clear example where a show failed to transition from an episodic nature to a linear plot was Panty & Stockin with Garterbelt, the first episodes were funny, over the top, but near the finale I couldn’t care less. An anime that successfully made that transition was Psycho-Pass, that used the episodic part to expose the cast and the world, and used that information to get us viewers involved with the linear part of the plot, and to actually care about the characters and the world where they live.

  • SoundMatch

    If I can throw my two cents as well, I think the reason Kill la Kill seems like a show that’s CUHRAYZEE and fun if you turn your brain off and just go with the flow is because of the way it was executed. The themes weren’t exactly clear, there’s a difference between doing something subtly and poor clarification.

    As much as I like the themes of how clothing has dictated the civilization of man I feel like this was not fleshed out enough. Especially with the relationship between Ryuuko and Senketsu. I personally feel like they could of still had some more development. I wanted to see them fight against the world of people who were influenced by Life Fibers to not give a damn like what Tsumugu mentioned in what Inumuta explained. That way it gives more space for Nudist Beach to shine then when Aikuro and Tsumugu get owned by Ragyo it becomes that much more enthralling. I really liked that idea but like I said execution.

    This could of been seriously good and they don’t have to make it so heavy handed. If it was a really good coming of age story for girls they should of been a scene where Ryuuko matures and finds her place in the world as a woman. But still it was a amazing series I’d say 60% thanks to the amazing soundtrack by Sawano-San.

    Thanks for reviewing the series!

  • Akizaki Ranho

    This show really could’ve been amazing. The opening sequence with Gamagoori and that spy from Kobe set a tone that the show never lived up to.
    It was just too shallow. Even the themes and symbols people claim are in the show seem almost added in as an afterthought or to add a little credibility to the shameless but incredibly brave vulgarity.
    And the plot inconsistencies, good lord the plot inconsistencies. There were just too many of them the biggest ones being Ryuuko’s quest to find her father’s killer leading her to Hounnouji Gakuen and NOT REVOCS (anyone who had a half scissor blade sighting would’ve pointed her in Nui’s direction, not Satsuki’s) and Souichiro/Isshin telling Satsuki about Ragyo’s plans and not Ryuuko who as it turns out was a near immortal, over-powered life fiber synchronized girl (since Senketsu was spliced with Ryuuko’s DNA, Isshin would’ve known that the experiment on Ryuuko when she was a baby was successful).
    Finally, could’ve done without the E4 or Battlefield Trip arcs. Very boring, those.
    On a technical level, though, the show owned hard. Character design, music, sound, voice acting, composition – it dominated everything and would’ve been the most memorable show of its season had it not shared the same season as White Album 2…and claimed to be a character drama lol
    Ah well, hopefully TRIGGER steps up their game in the future…

    • MACHA

      I didn’t know the show claimed to be a character drama… seems weird. I didn’t see White Album 2 but I read some of the reviews and while it seemed great, I don’t think I would’ve considered it more memorable than KLK – or the other way around either. They’re two very different shows that are memorable in their own way.

      I don’t get your reasoning behind the plot inconsistencies.
      Why would Isshin tell Ryuuko to fight and kill a person she doesn’t know? Telling her about Ragyo earlier would have been pointless. And even if he did and Ryuuko knew who was behind her father’s death when he was killed, she probably would still reach Honnouji first. REVOCS is really far away – they take a chopper to get from REVOCS to Honnouji. And we don’t know where exactly REVOCS is relative to Honnouji so it could’ve gone either way. She just got to Honnouji first.

      You say
      there are a lot of plot inconsistencies but only bring up two. Is it
      really oh so many plot inconsistencies that you have to cherry pick the
      ‘biggest ones’? You’re example of the biggest plot inconsistencies boils
      down to how life works. Everything doesn’t go the ideal way. Your ‘plot
      inconsistencies’ are examples of what could or should of happened after
      the fact. Just because the plot didn’t go in a way that would have
      seemed logical to you or was the ideal way doesn’t make it a plot
      inconsistency. Frankly, if there are a lot of inconsistencies I didn’t
      see them.